• j5906@feddit.org
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    “We have tried nothing and are all out of ideas”

    Imagine you either had to brew beer yourself (but max 12 beers a month!) or join a club that does it for you, but the club has to follow 1000 stupid rules and requires you to hire 10 lawyers to follow every single one of them.

    You only can buy beer legally in a few pharmacies and need so see a doctor before. But hey the doctors appointment can legally be made over video call with some shady websites. Then you need to wait for shipment of beer 3-7 days, because most pharmacies only ship the cans and dont sell them over the counter.

    Its only allowed to carry 4 cans of beer at a time and not around (complex matrix of institutions/places/zones and a distance relative to them) and you can still loose your drivers license of you have drank 2 beers 2 days ago.

    I think we need to do a study that needs to involve all of CDU and CSU where they have to go through that exact procedure for some years every time they want to grab a beer and then see if there is a black market formed. Also we are gonna wire tap their phones for that reason and use a software from a war criminal that is called “Essence of Evil” to do just that. Oh and we also change the rules every few months slightly, just to confuse everyone.

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    However, in the eyes of respondents the law is not a suitable instrument to combat organized crime (82 percent of Berlin respondents say so) and the black market (69 percent of Berlin respondents say so). Here the capital’s police officers are roughly in line with their colleagues from other federal states. “The KCanG is not an instrument for combating organized crime. It is a law regulating consumption,” trade unionist Teichert also makes clear.

    Yeah. It’s extremely hard to get a “Cannabis Social Club” (nonprofit cannabis growing association, and the original name is indeed in English) approved, many federal states have none or single digit numbers - with a size limitation of 500 members per club. So for most people who want to consume cannabis, the alternatives are growing it yourself or buying on the black market.

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      Yeah. It’s extremely hard to get a “Cannabis Social Club” (nonprofit cannabis growing association, and the original name is indeed in English) approved

      The with work doesn’t end there. Some clubs had to close again after approval because the requirements are high and they’re scrutinized often / more closely than others.

      So for most people who want to consume cannabis, the alternatives are growing it yourself or buying on the black market.

      Or ordering via shady online prescription platforms. At least until they take that away from us again.

      It definitely feels like they’re trying really hard to not offer good alternatives to the black market. The current situation is better than before but still not ideal…

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      many federal states have none or single digit numbers

      As far as I know, Bavaria has none. My local newspaper recently ran a full-page article concluding that the official goal seems to financially destroy everyone who tries to start a club. The permissions are granted and then, after money was invested, material purchased and everything is set up, they close the clubs down again through abuse of zoning regulations or environemntal laws.

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        Yes bavaria has none and the government even is proud of it. And in the next sentence they frame it as a failiure of the legalisation

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          they frame it as a failiure of the legalisation

          Technically that’s true, but not in the sense they suggest in this sentence. It should have been legalized in a way, where there’s a lot less up to no leverage for the shit Bavaria is doing.

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      The KCanG is not an instrument for combating organized crime. It is a law regulating consumption,” trade unionist Teichert also makes clear.

      So for most people who want to consume cannabis, the alternatives are growing it yourself or buying on the black market.

      People warned about that before introduction. Are we ready to acknowledge the level of corruption and bad intentions that that implies?

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        Most parties are corrupt, what else is new? In the first place, the Greens were the only party involved who actually wanted to legalize cannabis, the other parties were either lukewarm or hostile.

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    If they would allow pharmacies to sell Cannabis without seeing a doctor.

    It still is difficult to buy Cannabis in Germany. No wonder some go to the black market.

    Sell prerolled joints in pharmacies and you will see significant reduce in crime.

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    It is perfectly legal to sew your own clothes or build your own car. Why is everybody buying clothes and cars from dealerships?

    It remains a mystery.

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    Legalization does not help in the fight against clans and the black market.

    I’ve suspected as much, but it’s nice to see it confirmed.

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      The only thing that is proven that legalization without sensible legalization of supply doesn’t help fight the black market. And there was not mutch doubt about that.

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      Well, it is not legalisation that is to blame, it is stupidity of the mew regulation that make black market most easy to get weed…