• Iconoclast@feddit.uk
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    6 hours ago

    whether virtual CSAM (no actual children harmed or in AI training data) and lifelike child sex dolls result in statistically more child predation.

    It could but I doubt that it would. Pedophiles don’t rape children - rapists do. Being both is rare. Having been born with attraction to children doesn’t mean they automatically also lack a moral compas and self-control. Most of them know it’s wrong and never offend. The vast majority of people in prison for child sexual abuse aren’t pedophiles but just good old rapists. Kids simply make an easy target.

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      2 hours ago

      aren’t paedophiles? yes your honour, i fucked that kid but i didn’t like it

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        55 minutes ago

        Pedophilia doesn’t describe behaviour but attraction. If a rapist is not exlusively attracted to children then they’re by definition not a pedophile. I’m well aware that in everyday language that word is used interchangeably with child molester but those terms are not synonymous.

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          28 minutes ago

          agree with all of that except the exclusive bit, i’m going to go with the wikipedia definition

          a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children

          which presents a problem for my point, doesn’t it. if you are attracted to children, but not primarily, what are you? a semipaedo? if you only ever told one lie, it doesn’t make you a liar. that is acceptable, even obvious to me. but you only fucked one kid so you’re not a paedophile? i can’t get my head round that

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        44 minutes ago

        In Hungary, there was a case, where a father who raped his daughter as punishment used that defense.

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          23 minutes ago

          i tried to look up the case but only get loads of results for fritzl

          what age was his daughter? was he popping viagras and crying ‘this is going to hurt me more than it hurts you?’ i would previously have thought that being able to maintain a boner long enough to rape your own daughter (assuming prepubescent) makes you a paedophile. but having just read the ‘primary or exclusive’ bit of the definition i don’t know what to make of it

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            15 minutes ago

            It was a younger, and the rapist’s name never got out here. Got quickly buried for whatever reason.