It will solve it being normalized. And F-off to the pedophile apologist bots rising in these threads saying it doesn’t so far that it’s been brought up.
rape of minors is not kink play. You will never ever convince me otherwise. Youre manipulation tactics are sad. Go Rotate and be angry about it forever.
It’ll never be normalized because it’s fucking weird, whether that’s legal or not. And you can stop calling anyone with a different opinion a bot, it makes you sound like one.
It’s not weird. Its not normalizing a kink. It’s violence. It’s raping minors. Stop downplaying it. And yes, there are bots. And I frankly do not give a shit what you think of me for pointing it out. I think I’ll continue to live a perfectly happy life without your approval over à fucking comment that triggered you online into the worst hill to get distracted by and go after during a discussion about normalizing raping minors. It doesn’t compare to the disappointment I have for you. I’m sure we will both live but at least I’ll sleep better knowing my dispppintment was a bit more high value energy than ‘dur, don’t insults the bots’ shit you’re here wasting time and energy doing.
Nope there is a huge amount of bots because lemmy had an engagement problem so people had the bright idea to fake it till it makes it. But then they realized faking it IS making it.
“that look like children” is not enforceable. Are you requiring a minimum height? A minimum number of ageing features? A certain breast size? What about cartoon/anime stylized products?
But the core issue is that this literally won’t solve anything and it’s, therefore, a waste of time and public money.
I believe they meant it wasn’t easy to consistently enforce, for the reasons they mention.
Australia might be doing this, but it doesn’t change that it’s all arbitrary and impossible to prove in court outside of the “best judgement” call argument, which is by definition inconsistent.
Anime stuff is crazy. What amounts to young girls with huge tits in a lot of cases. All kinds of products like bedding or pillows feature them, and of course there’s porn of it, and as far as I can tell it doesn’t get treated any different than a niche weird porn. Somehow these are fine, but sex dolls aren’t? I’m not advocating for one or the other, but it seems like if we call one “bad”, the other should be too.
Ofc you frame it that way. Most people on here are just against banning things where there’s A, no victims and B, no real way to determine age. You’d have to ban drawings the same way if the characters appear childlike. How is this enforceable. By the opinion of whoever is looking over something? The article specifically mentions weight and size but I don’t think thats sufficient in itself.
In the US obscene drawings of underage characters in sexual situations is illegal under the Protect act
“Section 1466A of Title 18, United States Code, makes it illegal for any person to knowingly produce, distribute, receive, or possess with intent to transfer or distribute visual representations, such as drawings, cartoons, or paintings that appear to depict minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct”
Some states explicitly prohibit cartoon pornography
If children sex dolls are readily available it risks normalizing the concept of sex with children. Both for potential pedophiles as well as children who browse shein, might get the impression that adults having sex with children is a thing.
I don’t think that banning this kind of product will solve the fact that there are people with a disorder. So what’s the point? Moralism?
It will solve it being normalized. And F-off to the pedophile apologist bots rising in these threads saying it doesn’t so far that it’s been brought up.
Are bad dragon sex toys normalizing bestiality?
rape of minors is not kink play. You will never ever convince me otherwise. Youre manipulation tactics are sad. Go Rotate and be angry about it forever.
Yes, before long there will be people basing their entire identity on wanting to be fucked by drago… Oh wait
Comparing raping minors as kink play and think that’s how you validate pedophiles, you’re the fucking problem.
It’ll never be normalized because it’s fucking weird, whether that’s legal or not. And you can stop calling anyone with a different opinion a bot, it makes you sound like one.
It’s not weird. Its not normalizing a kink. It’s violence. It’s raping minors. Stop downplaying it. And yes, there are bots. And I frankly do not give a shit what you think of me for pointing it out. I think I’ll continue to live a perfectly happy life without your approval over à fucking comment that triggered you online into the worst hill to get distracted by and go after during a discussion about normalizing raping minors. It doesn’t compare to the disappointment I have for you. I’m sure we will both live but at least I’ll sleep better knowing my dispppintment was a bit more high value energy than ‘dur, don’t insults the bots’ shit you’re here wasting time and energy doing.
Woody Allen, Sleeper, 1973, dinner party scene
Note: Woody Allen is Jewish. The film was released 25 years after the Holocaust.
Is this for shock value? Or you are implying that an agenda was being sold?
I don’t think they’re bots, and that concerns me.
Nope there is a huge amount of bots because lemmy had an engagement problem so people had the bright idea to fake it till it makes it. But then they realized faking it IS making it.
If banning sex dolls that look like children is moralism, I’m OK with that.
“that look like children” is not enforceable. Are you requiring a minimum height? A minimum number of ageing features? A certain breast size? What about cartoon/anime stylized products?
But the core issue is that this literally won’t solve anything and it’s, therefore, a waste of time and public money.
Why do you think it is unenforceable? Australia already enforces a ban on these dolls and arrests anyone attempting to import them.
I believe they meant it wasn’t easy to consistently enforce, for the reasons they mention.
Australia might be doing this, but it doesn’t change that it’s all arbitrary and impossible to prove in court outside of the “best judgement” call argument, which is by definition inconsistent.
Anime stuff is crazy. What amounts to young girls with huge tits in a lot of cases. All kinds of products like bedding or pillows feature them, and of course there’s porn of it, and as far as I can tell it doesn’t get treated any different than a niche weird porn. Somehow these are fine, but sex dolls aren’t? I’m not advocating for one or the other, but it seems like if we call one “bad”, the other should be too.
Many people would fuck Ariana Grande and she looks younger then she should.
If you read the title of the article, it would seem this is absolutely enforceable.
Also, of course Lemmy is arguing in favour of child sex dolls, I’d expect nothing less.
Ofc you frame it that way. Most people on here are just against banning things where there’s A, no victims and B, no real way to determine age. You’d have to ban drawings the same way if the characters appear childlike. How is this enforceable. By the opinion of whoever is looking over something? The article specifically mentions weight and size but I don’t think thats sufficient in itself.
Doesn’t France already ban depictions of characters that look like minors in sexual situations and also depiction of rape and sexual violence.
With something like this, a judgement call would ultimately need to be made, yes. That’s how a lot of law enforcement works.
In the US obscene drawings of underage characters in sexual situations is illegal under the Protect act “Section 1466A of Title 18, United States Code, makes it illegal for any person to knowingly produce, distribute, receive, or possess with intent to transfer or distribute visual representations, such as drawings, cartoons, or paintings that appear to depict minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct”
Some states explicitly prohibit cartoon pornography
Out of curiosity, does that include cherubs or is religious iconography exempt?
lol they’re not arguing against because it’s a pointless measure
you’re confusing picking your fights with being supportive
If children sex dolls are readily available it risks normalizing the concept of sex with children. Both for potential pedophiles as well as children who browse shein, might get the impression that adults having sex with children is a thing.
It absolutely has a point, the point being manufacturing and selling sex toys that look like children is absolutely disgusting.
And picking your battles doesn’t typically mean arguing against the law being passed on the Internet.
Why not ban scat fetish then as well?
Scat fetish typically involves grown adults.
Having sex with a doll also only involves grown adults.
You justified the ban with it being disgusting so I repeat the question: Why not ban scat fetish then as well?
ah, the point is that it’s disgusting, thanks for confirming the emptiness of the argument
next time I’m before an unflushed toilet I’ll call the authorities