• Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    4 days ago

    The same people saying that are still making excuses why they shouldnt vote dem. They want this outcome as much as the right.

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          in no healthy democracy, you have both parties supporting a genocide.

          fuck both parties are just the same political ideology, two corporate bought neoliberals. the election is just how racist you want them, like openly racist, or secretly racist.

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            What should be done if a country isnt a healthy democracy?

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                You’ve already proven that you understand so stop pretending like you dont. Maybe next time you can bait me with a braindead take on capitalism or something maybe lying about history that always gets me.

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              get involved in primaries to push for progressives, if they won’t let you, vote third party, if they won’t let you, burn the system down

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                Getting involved in primaries is great. But letting the right win isnt burning the system down. Its giving power to an opposition party so they can make life worse for hundreds of millions of people and take away their rights. Every term they have they shore up more power through corruption and make it harder for an opposition party to win.

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                  I’m general, I’d agree, but by now democrats and Republicans aren’t opposition. Democrats are control opposition, they still go to war, commit was crimes, raise police budgets, do mass deportations, bask in corporate bribes… they are just better at smiling at your face while stabbing you in the back. just like Malcolm X warned us.

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                    So stupid to think they’re the same. So stupid. All the evidence right in your face. So so stupid.

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                Or until they just send in the national guard, or ice at this point, to just shoot everyone, or maybe just bomb the whole area, both of which has happened multiple times. It’s going to take more than protests and it’s also going to require international intervention. There is no such thing as a peaceful compromise with warmongering theocratic fascists.

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          Yeah because biden was so much better on his knees licking isntreali taint for 4 years

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        Communist wants to see people experience massive suffering. I am shocked /s

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          British colonist sides with the pedophiles and genociders. Why am I not surprised?

          Blink twice if they have videos of you on jeffrey island lmao

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            I’m against voting for Trump unlike you and the rest of the bots replying to me.

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              I’m not a bot and I didn’t vote for trump. I voted for the genocide candidate you wanted instead of the other genocide candidate you were fine with as long as there was no anti-genocide candidate.

              You got the only thing any centrist has ever wanted. You got an election in which genocide was the only option. Stop gloating.

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                I voted for the genocide candidate you wanted

                Cool then shut the fuck up. This is clearly about the people who didnt.

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                  shut the fuck up.

                  No. We should never have another genocide candidate. If she had told netanyahu no, you would have voted for trump without hesitation.

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                You’re here arguing for Trump and Bibi to have full reign. You want the worst possible outcome for Palestinians. You must hate them.

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                  You argued that lebanese has no right to resist a settler colonial power threatening the whole region. All americans predisent alive should be executed for treason including trump

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              Some friend of mine died in Gaza, asshole. I hate you and I hope your family gets bombed by the yanks lmao

              PIece of shit

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                You’re a dogshit friend STILL advocating for handing power over to someone who wants to glass their entire country and give it to Isreal. Lucky they’re dead and dont have to see what an evil bastard you are.

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                  As of the 2024 U.S. Presidential Election (November 5, 2024), the death toll in Gaza reported by the Gaza Ministry of Health (MoH) and relayed by the United Nations (OCHA) was at least 43,391 people.

                  Those people doesn’t count to you do they? You dont care your country did that, you only cares about your football team. We both know the dems would have bombed iran too. Your whole country and person is rotten, mate. Kill yourself. You’re an inhumane cruel asshole without any human value. Just drive for a bit and then give a good turn into the wheel. Boom, the world will be better off.

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                    Maybe you can abstain from 2028 as well and if you get your wish Trump might win again and if you’re really lucky he will bomb my country after finishing off your friends in the middle east. Im sure the dem would have done the same.

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                  “Wants to”? You voted for somebody who let it happen you inhumane pos. You’re a cruel self-absorbed westoid passively swallowing propaganda while your country bombs civilians. Kill yourself. You do not deserve life.

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          The world will be better off if the US and Israel lose. If they’re allowed to do whatever they want we’re all going to die, the empire must be destroyed.

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            Well you got your wish Trump won and America is losing and the world is objectively worse off.

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              The world watched a livestreamed genocide in Gaza before Trump. That world wasn’t good.

              “The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters.”

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              Nobody wanted trump to win, idiot. People just wanted a party that wasn’t genocidal.

              Who knew carpet bombing civilians was so unpopular, am I right? We should have voted for the party lead by a notorious jeffrey islander.

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                Nobody wanted trump to win, idiot.

                Centrists were perfectly fine with trump winning as long as no candidate opposed the genocide they love more than anything.

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                The people I’m talking about did want Trump to win. Voting 3rd party when trumps stance was to turn Gaza into a parking lot is the pro genocide position.

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                    So that justifies voting for the pro war pro suffering pro genocide candidate? Moron

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            The situation in the middle east is a direct result of people like you. So dont pretend like actually care.

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              The situation in the middle east is a direct result of people like you, dumbass. Americans and other brits, zionists,… You guys just bombed a school, ahole

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                You’re here defending a pro genocide position.

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                  Ah yes they were supposed to vote for the litteral genocider because the other genocider was even worse, so NOT voting for the genocider would mean voting FOR the genocide.

                  You’re an inhumane piece of shit. I hope you hear your mum scream in pain lmao