• Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    2 days ago

    What should be done if a country isnt a healthy democracy?

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        1 day ago

        You’ve already proven that you understand so stop pretending like you dont. Maybe next time you can bait me with a braindead take on capitalism or something maybe lying about history that always gets me.

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        Or until they just send in the national guard, or ice at this point, to just shoot everyone, or maybe just bomb the whole area, both of which has happened multiple times. It’s going to take more than protests and it’s also going to require international intervention. There is no such thing as a peaceful compromise with warmongering theocratic fascists.

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      get involved in primaries to push for progressives, if they won’t let you, vote third party, if they won’t let you, burn the system down

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        Getting involved in primaries is great. But letting the right win isnt burning the system down. Its giving power to an opposition party so they can make life worse for hundreds of millions of people and take away their rights. Every term they have they shore up more power through corruption and make it harder for an opposition party to win.

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          I’m general, I’d agree, but by now democrats and Republicans aren’t opposition. Democrats are control opposition, they still go to war, commit was crimes, raise police budgets, do mass deportations, bask in corporate bribes… they are just better at smiling at your face while stabbing you in the back. just like Malcolm X warned us.

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            So stupid to think they’re the same. So stupid. All the evidence right in your face. So so stupid.

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              are they not corporate owned neoliberal parties? didn’t both invest in war? aren’t both pro cop? didn’t both do mass deportations and family separation, didn’t both engage and invested in genocide?

              one is openly racist.

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                Wow. Can you really only think in absolutes? Try looking at relative differences. Not to mention trying to destroy NATO, take billions in corrupt crypto scams, destroy democracy, destroy allied relations, destroy the environment, take science out of health policy, take away women’s reproductive rights, take away rights of trans people. The list of very significant policy differences goes on and on. And there’s the abject support of rapists and child abusers and sex trafficking. And the attacking of protesters, killing peaceful citizens. The support of Russia as they attack Ukraine. Not to mention the blatant lying all the fucking time. It’s beyond moronic how you can see trump as the same as Biden. Your blindness because Biden allowed military support of Isreal before Isreal went full genocidal is ridiculous in the face of Trump actively joining in and sending the military to attack civilians in Iran. Look at the fucking world. It’s going down the drain because of Trump and the gop - and if you didn’t actively vote against that in any way you could then you are responsible for that . Wake the fuck up, already.

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                  the problem is that both parties are right wing parties, if you think Dems will save us, then you’re the reason we are in a fascist state.

                  Yes, Republicans are worse, but Democrats aren’t an opposition party.

                  And there’s no point in criticisng Republicans because they are openly racist fash. but the Democrats can still be saved, by infiltrating and primarying progressives, and if they resist (like they do with every progressive) they will likely be the first to fold if a third party gains even a few % of the votes in the polls.

                  as long as Democrats get votes by being a right wing neoliberal party, the nation will keep falling into fascism.

                  And Biden provided full support fir Israel DURING the genocide. and doubling down on it, and only making some empty threats about maybe lowering their funding but never following through and kept vetoing UN resolutions to stop them. Biden should be in jail for the war criminal genocider he is, put him in a cell with Trump

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                    So you’re willing to contribute to the complete destruction of Gaza, huge losses in Lebanon, terrible humanitarian disasters in Iran, and Cuba. Millions displaced and dead. All because Biden was changing course too slowly. Fucking moronic and evil. Face what you’ve done and stop trying to rationalize the terrible choice you made.