• comrade_twisty@feddit.org
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    China and Russia win even more by staying silent and letting Trump disband the old world order that hugely favored the US and Europe. All they have to do is watch, it’s astonishing how incredibly stupid the US is acting on the world stage.

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      Does it though? The Euro is the second strongest currency in the world and Europe has a strong banking system. There is very much a chance it takes over the role of the USD. Also Europe is much richer on a per capita bases then Russia or China and much more open to migration. It is for example impossible for most everybody to become a Chinese citizen. So there is a strong chance that Europe starts brain draining the rest of the world even more. This is actually an example of that in a way. This might well end up especially bad for Russia, if they loose the war against Ukraine. That most certainly will end up crashing the economy and lead to mass emigration. That somewhat already started.

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      As long as Europe remains the democratic center of the world, the world order will favour them.

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          If you bully Germanball or EUball enough, you’ll get Reichtangle though.

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          Yeah, bad neighbours do make us build tall fences. Europe is going to need some very tall fences to keep Russia and China out.

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            I’m not too worried about those two for the moment, really.

            Russia fucked itself in a hole it won’t be able to come out of for a long time. It’s economy is fucked, they went through all their reserves, and they lost some 1.5 million able bodied men. It will take decades to get back from that

            China is about to be hit by the demographics freight train. It moves slow, but when you hear it, it’s too late. It’s population is shrinking and they’re at the point where it matters little if they, starting today, start having babies like crazy. Doon they’ll have an aging population that won’t work and be a burden on the economy whilst the next generation is too small in comparison. That next generation will be busy enough with work to not let the country slide off a cliff to be thinking about wars with Europe. It’s one of the reasons why China is pushing for a Taiwan invasion NOW because in ten years they won’t be able to do it anymore. If they couldn’t take Taiwan, I’m less worried about Europe

            The US is the big problem, or more like was, because it’s working hard to fuck itself into an early grave.

            I guess that is the thing: democracies thrive, because everyone benefits and everything is open enough to deter corruption, while dictatorships benefit the few and corruption thrives in the darkness they require