The plans - which are subject to a 12-week public consultation - seek to prevent smoking, vaping and the use of heated tobacco in these settings across England.
The plans - which are subject to a 12-week public consultation - seek to prevent smoking, vaping and the use of heated tobacco in these settings across England.
there is evidence vaping is extremely harmful to your lungs. possibly moreso than smoking.
and we know that “second hand smoking” is a thing with it sooooo.
yes. there is evidence
Source?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11580103/
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41533-022-00311-w
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10228557/
None of that says it’s worse than smoking. Smoking gives you cancer.
Pretty sure the consensus in the medical field is that vaping is less bad than smoking and if switching to vapes helps you quit tobacco that’s a net positive, but ideally you should do neither.
possibly worse is what I wrote.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronchiolitis_obliterans?wprov=sfla1
this is one of the things these articles talk about. also referred to as “popcorn lungs”. I’d call this worse, but it being subjective and all I can’t talk for anyone else.
Popcorn lung was discovered in popcorn factories, so those types of flavours are not used in vapes anymore.
These food flavourings have also been tested by billions of people when baking.
Of course, if you inhale nothing but flavoured vape juice, like the rat in the trial, then obviously it’s going to cause harm.
Vaping is not worse than smoking on any level. It’s about 95% better.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/e-cigarettes-around-95-less-harmful-than-tobacco-estimates-landmark-review
ah yes, the 1 source against the 4 I posted…
edit: which is also over a decade old! you had to dig back to 2015 to find this.
cool dude.
edit 2: your actual source. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a8171a7e5274a2e87dbda91/McNeill-Hajek_report_authors_note_on_evidence_for_95_estimate.pdf
says that the chemicals in vaping “have not been assosiated with any serious risk”. which means they have yet to be found harmful.
most of the ways we figure out that stuff is harmful is later. and when we do stuff with chemicals. this is when they would use these “popcorn factory smells” you’re talking about. back in 2015, the ones you said we moved away from?
yet it’s also so called “95% more safe”…
Quality over quantity.
The chemicals are used in food. We would know they are harmful, the same way we discovered popcorn lung…
The risk is reduced by 95%. What don’t you understand?
no, I think you misunderstand your source.
it says that the chemicals are not yet (in 2015) known to cause any harm. the big thing with vaping chemicals (as pointed out in my sources) is that you heat it up a lot and inhale it.
therefore the way these chemicals are used in vaping is very different than in food, and present different risks. so the research into vaping is it’s own risk.
If you really think your source is “quality over quantity” then please do read it again, and look at the dates of the studies ❤️
one of mine is a so-called cumulativte study that looks over a lot of studies to find broad trends, and that one points out that it is for certain dangerous.
back in the day tobacco companies said that smoking cigarettes was not harmful. they even funded research into saying that. I’d be sceptical of companies and the narrative that they profit from.