• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    23 hours ago

    Oh no, another ‘safe space’ brought to you by rainbow capitalism turns out to be, in fact, another ‘safe space’ brought to you by rainbow capitalism.

    Anyway…

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    That’s all the talk so far? It feels like a bad sign to me when power starts moving from the true believers to the VCs.

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      It was always going to be this way. It didn’t take long to see the signs of enshittification on BSky. They were subpoenaed for user info, they banned journalists, implemented age verification, and I left when they started adding link redirects and tracking.

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        They banned journalists? Who?

        And I didn’t know about the redirects and tracking either. They are doing that without ads?

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            The claimed reason for that is to highlight “referrer” links for the sites people go to from bsky.

            My understanding is that if you click like https://www.themarysue.com/ the website operators would see a “feddit.org” or “lemmy.world” referer if you’re using a web browser and don’t have a defeating option enabled, but not if your browser is locked down or you use an app. The immediate redirects, however, do consistently show in the web site’s access logs.

            It’s possible bsky could fuck around with this in the future, but doing so risks just sending users to a pseudo-fork like blacksky.

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              but doing so risks just sending users to a pseudo-fork like blacksky.

              I think if there’s anything we’ve learned at this point, it’s that it’s extremely hard to get users to leave a platform they have connections on. That’s always the plan.

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                That’s why bsky’s pseudo-federation isn’t as big a deal as some ActivityPub boosters claim.

                As I understand it, if lemmy.world shuts down or starts demanding cash my only resource would be the same as if Facebook decides I’m too critical of billionaires – start all over elsewhere with a new account. Sure, I could get close to the same experience with a different node, but I’d be a brand new account with no history. I might as well go someplace else entirely.

                Bsky’s “portable user” idea fixes that. There are accounts my bsky account follows who switched to blacksky, and if they hadn’t said they’d changed I wouldn’t have noticed. The essential identity of their account shifted almost seamlessly, and they “federate” with everyone else, aside that their appview shows accounts that bsky’s ordinary moderation hides.

                I don’t have any illusions about how altruistic the cryptobro VC’s are. But the entirely of their value proposition is that “leaving bsky” should be about as painless as porting your number from Verizon to AT&T.

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              Why wait? Why continue contributing value and investing in the platform? The longer you wait, the harder it becomes.

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                I’m easily out if they screw it up, I’m in the fediverse at least as much as there. So far, I’m OK with them and I want to see what happens with this protocol. Mastodon needs some work too.

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      Which is why “Not for profit” organisations are such a good thing. They are harder to get going but because they are not investment vehicles in the same way you don’t have CEOs installed just to maximise share value. Decisions are focused on what the company needs to perform its mission.

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        The American Healthcare system fully disagrees with your statement, as they actively exploit non-profit status to avoid taxes and squeeze any “profits” into bonuses for the people at the top. They aren’t even the only industry doing this, but it all boils down to a piss poor lack of regulation and enforcement that really lets companies exploit non-profit structures.

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          USAmerica is just corrupt country that non-profit is just a way to avoid taxes.

          Most of parts of the world won’t let non-profit to be turned that way.

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          Certainly things can be open to abuse, and different regulatory systems have different loop holes. However I have seen examples where it’s been a good thing.

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      What goes up must come down… watch in the tech bro future we will be bailing out social media companies just like the airlines. Always making a good thing bad.

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    Does anyone know what desitions he made at Automattic?

    > Schneider, who will continue working as a partner at the venture capital firm True Ventures while at Bluesky, was previously CEO of the Wordpress parent company, Automattic, from 2006 to 2014.

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      Does anyone know what desitions he made at Automattic?

      given the way automattic has run for the last 15 years, probably the bad ones.

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    Blue sky was started by elon’s good buddy. It was always going to go full shit.

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      it wasn’t started by jack; it was an incubator project at twitter with the original twitter devs and jack remained on the board.

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        That goon has his DNA all over bluesky, and he has a long history with elon. Cling to semantics if you need to, but the spirit of what I said was true. If they could get away with the optics of dorsey heading bluesky in that “exodus” moment, they would have. But all knew that would leave a bad taste in the public’s mouth and slow/stall adoption, so they had the charade they presented.

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          Cling to semantics if you need to, but the spirit of what I said was true.

          Is it? Doesn’t seem a valid argument.

          Hitler embraced the construction of the autobahn. Therefore, the autobahn is evil.

          operates the same way (guilt by association fallacy). I agree bluesky “was always going to shit” for entirely different reasons like repeating the same mistakes of twitter.

          Maybe you could offer a more logical argument for your conclusion instead of dragging the discussion into irrationality?

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            No, it doesn’t, because, you used ‘embraced’ when the it would be more accurate to say that Dorsey started and oversaw the development of BlueSky.

            Hitler didn’t go fully nuts into megalomaniacal monument planning, overuling his generals, micromanaging superweapon projects, untill … what, 1942ish?

            Hitler embraced the autobahn, he didn’t oversee it as an involved executive, he appointed Fritz Todt to make actual decisions and lead the project.

            He also didn’t invent it or found it. It was a thing that already existed, that he thought was a good idea, despite himself having really nothing to do with its early development.

            (also just ‘holy shit’ at immediately jumping to literally Hitler as a comparison. I don’t even have that much smoke for Dorsey, sheesh)

            Dorsey, on the other hand, started BlueSky, and ran BlueSky the way all VC/‘Angel Investors’ run their projects: You can’t really say no to them, what they say is basically understood to be what you do… or, they leave, as Dorsey eventually did.

            He was obviously frustrated that he was not being listened to, on this project that he set up.

            You can’t be frustrated that people aren’t listening to you if you’re not saying things, giving guidance, suggesting policies… that people are disregarding.


            https://www.businessinsider.com/jack-dorsey-bluesky-twiiter-nostr-interview-2024-5

            Very early in Twitter’s history, Dorsey imagined that Twitter could be an open-source protocol that wasn’t controlled by anyone, instead of a venture-backed, for-profit company. But that didn’t happen. And later on, when Dorsey got frustrated while running the for-profit version of Twitter, he imagined that Twitter could help start an independent, open-source protocol version of itself — Bluesky.

            But then — in Dorsey’s telling — he got frustrated that Bluesky was doing things like the old Twitter. Things like raising money, and moderating what happened on its platform, and having a board. Which Dorsey was on.

            https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/jack-dorsey-reveals-why-he-left-bluesky-deleted-account/473992

            Key Takeaways

            Jack Dorsey co-founded Twitter, now X, and later founded and funded an X rival, Bluesky.

            He left the Bluesky board on Saturday and announced it on X.

            Dorsey explained that the trouble started when Bluesky started moderating content.

            I really have no idea how anyone can pretend that BlueSky wasn’t Dorsey’s idea, his project, his baby.

            Oh wait, no, I know.

            If thing becomes bad, then person I like wasn’t actually involved with it that much, therefore person I like is not bad.

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      He was not always Elon’s buddy and he was not a PoS at the time, to my knowledge. In fact he went on Joe Rogan and argued with Tim Poole and defended his liberal policies and trans protections.

      Unfortunately COVID radicalized them both.

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        Covid didn’t “radicalize” anyone? It was just an opportunity for bad people, with more typically controlled PR images to that point, to show the world exactly who they had always been.

        All these goons also have multiple performative “arguments” over the years to muddy the conversation about how evil they actually are. Vance called trump America’s Hitler, elon basically called trump a pedophile publicly post-doge and at the end of the day, they are all still hanging out ruining the world. None of it was sincere.

        Would advise you to stop eating that little trail of curated breadcrumbs they leave for you, it’s a cynical game and they think you’re stupid enough to buy it.

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          LOL would advise you to get your head out of the sand and open your eyes to what’s happening around you.

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              I agree with you COVID didn’t radicalize anyone. It just so happened to occur at the same time as Trump and other countries as they took a turn towards fascism. Antiscience and anti intellectualism go with the fascist playbook. They used COVID as a kind of red herring. COVID, trans people, Muslims, border, aliens. It would have been something no matter what.

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                They used COVID as a kind of red herring.

                Why would they need a red herring?

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                Well said. No shortage of forced panic, sacrificial boogeymen to fixate on for the worst among us

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    "Venture capitalist " pfffft “proves you build a real business around open software.” - well forget about that the corpos dragging us all into cyber war (wE hAvE +0 sAvE +He Ch!LdReN)… while we talk to LLMs with our subscription based suck and fuck machine brought to you by tesla gambiling with fart coin eating radioactive cornchips. Roman salute to the suck and fuck machine as your identity is being stolen by DOGE and sold to israel because you posted something naughty on the interweb. The future is stoopid the future is a nightmere. They always leave when something “BIG” is going to happen. Corpos are strategic… Corpo messaging… “positioning itself as a progressive replacement”— CORPO_WOKE… What you see is not what you see. Other than trying to read between the lines why the fuck would anybody care about these vampires. A circle jerk of the techbro wealthy. I take nothing at face value. Katie Drummond the current global editorial director at Wired at the WEF Annual Meeting in 2025

    These capitalist are sick and tired of the constitution. Everything is a commodity that you can rent. I know I sound crazy but I am not. They are playing good cop bad cop and flooding the zone. They all in on it. It is one big club and you aint in it. I don’t like change in general and I am not big on features and benefits. I have yet to be impressed other than be horrified by AI. Reinvent a wheel as a square, charge tripple and beat me over the head with it.

    Julian Paul Assange + Edward Snowden = FUCK ALL BIG TECH

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      If the CEO is in charge of a technology based company, yeah…it does.

      “Tim Cook steps down from role”

      “THATS NOT A TECHNOLOGY STORY!!!”

      See how that comes off?

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          Dictators can affect funding and deals pretty well, they have a lot less influence on the products. From what I’ve seen most “tech” topics are mostly shiny new products and the periphery to that

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          We like to compute… these venture corpo turdz like to suck blood… we are intertwined.

          The Managerial Class got that corpo language that spreads like wildfire, dum dums read their books, people start chirpin and people start getting dumb ideas. So we keep track of the change to anticipate anti social actions by those above us. There is a reason why things happen. If you pay attention you might realize why you are getting fucked. Just saying there is some value at keeping track of the corpo turdz.

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      CEO changes can be very intensive technology changes like when musk took over Twitter and turned the tech into a dumpsterfire

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        He turned the social media platform into a dumpster fire. The model itself is fine. I’m not really sure what, if anything, Twitter has been doing that’s innovative after they created the platform in the first place, so I’m not sure what the tech aspect is there.