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floofloof@lemmy.ca to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago

The Dangers of California’s Legislation to Censor 3D Printing

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The Dangers of California’s Legislation to Censor 3D Printing

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floofloof@lemmy.ca to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago
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California’s bill, AB 2047, will not only mandate censorware on all 3D printers; it will also criminalize the use of open-source alternatives. Repeating the mistakes of DRM won’t make anyone safer, but it will hurt innovation in the state and risks a slew of new consumer harms ranging from surveillance to platform lock-in. California must stand with creators and reject this legislation before it’s too late.
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    So try and ban 3D printing guns, because that’s too dangerous. But still sell guns at wallmarkt to be bought without background checks? I have the feeling something is a little off here…

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      FFS, you still need a bg check to buy from Walmart. There’s plenty of things to point out to fight for sane gun laws without making shit up.

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        Fair, however, the point remains, that the whole 3D printers are dangerous weapon manufacturing sources is BS. 3D printers, at least those affordable to hobbyists are a damn poor choice for creating fire weapons. Yes, you can print some non-critical parts but that’s about it. How many people died due to 3d printed guns in the US and how many to legally/illegally owned?

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          Maybe spend 5 minutes looking into it before commenting on something you know nothing about.

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            If it is so obvious, you could easily show me a source with the number of victims of 3d printed fire weapons, legally owned commercial fire weapons and illegally owned commercial fire weapons, in California or the US as a whole.

            Or were you commenting on the suitability of FDM or resin printers for producing critical function parts of fire weapons? Which of the parts one could produce via FDM or resin, that couldn’t be produced with subtractive manufacturing methods? Please elaborate with actual arguments.

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      How the fuck is this getting upvoted when it isn’t remotely based in reality?

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        Because you can buy guns at Walmart, maybe not in California, but they sell guns in approximately half of their stores in the US.
        You can also go to gun shows and buy guns without a background check.
        But of course you’re correct, he was wrong, It’s not as easy as going to Walmart to get a gun without a background check. It’s actually MUCH EASIER than that in more than half the US. You can just go online and pay for someone to send you a gun without any background check, site unseen, from the comfort of your own home.

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          I’m not sure how buying a gun at a gun show sans background check is easier than if Walmart didn’t require a background check, but regardless, the premise of their statement (that Walmart doesn’t require background checks) is factually incorrect. You’re moving the goalpost. And no, you can’t just pay for a gun online and have it shipped to you. That’s not how that works, not legally at least.

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            Wow, talk about moving goal posts… You were all enraged with his conflating Walmart and private sales, but have no problems making up stuff that I didn’t say.
            As for online sales: “According to the ATF, any unlicensed person -meaning not a Federal Firearms Licensee- may transfer a firearm to another unlicensed person residing in the same state as long as that person is not barred from owning a gun. This means it’s perfectly legal under federal law to transfer your gun to another person without any extra steps as long as they are allowed to own a firearm. There is no federal requirement for having a license to do so, and you don’t need to fill out any paperwork. As long as you’re both residents of the same state, your transaction is essentially unrestricted.”

            So how about state laws you ask?
            “Private Transfers of Firearms Wyoming does not regulate private sales and transfers of firearms”.

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              I didn’t make anything up, but it looks like misread your comment. My bad, but when you start throwing out shit that didn’t have anything to do with the comment I replied to, that can easily happen. Regardless, neither of those links say you can purchase a gun online and have it shipped directly to you. I’m not aware of that happening anywhere or any mechanisms to facilitate that anywhere. That’s not a thing that happens.

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        Because guns are bad, mmmkay?

        /s

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      You can’t buy guns at Walmart in California.

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