Yeah but the Europeans in Europe today are the descendants of those who did not leave.

I don’t think it’s anything more than short-term versus long-term thinking.

I would not describe either country as “good”, but that has nothing to do with the above statement.

I don’t really see how that is relevant. Or how a country’s energy sources alone can determine whether they are “good” or “bad”.

Yet… they play the long game.

Wow that’s crazy! I literally covered my head with a towel and stuck some sunglasses over it and they approved my verification

Yeah it’s not easy to get people to care, and even harder to get them to move from something they’re familiar with.

The main motivation for me was getting off WhatsApp, so anyone who refused to get Signal just has to deal with SMS now.

I ripped the bandaid off when Facebook bought WhatsApp. I told all my contacts and the ones I actually talked to were willing to install Signal, even my grandparents.

You can make an account without using your real details. Just stick to the browser and don’t use their app.