Justifier

https://vger.to/lemmy.world/comment/22656586

As for damages

Say you have a old masonry structure like a masonry brick fence in the way of the easement

They can tear it down and will, and will not replace it with one of comparable quality if they bother to at all

Ive seen some beautiful 1950s work like that where it goes from amazing tradesmen quality masonry and iron fencing to jank 4x4’s and basically chickenwire on the easement, even 2 sections of the masonry/iron fence would take thousands to fix properly from what they did and there’s the likelihood they’ll do it again in the future.

Those are homes of people on fixed incomes or investments. They usually can’t keep fixing the damage. And those fences aren’t really decorations, its not even slightly uncommon for people to die from dog maulings in my area. Happens a few times every single year

Say you have a road, driveway, etc? At some point you will have a massive random pothole or speedbump because they’ll cut a trough right through it and fill it with asphalt not repour expensive concrete. I can in my neighborhood point out four locations where cable and fiber easement companies have done just that

Theres really no eli5, this is a purposely convoluted topic

Best I could offer you is recomemend you go look up the channels Lehto’s Law and The Institute for Justice on YouTube

In the US, easements have a history of being abused to render large areas of privately owned land useless/unusable, to legally trespass, and to harass landowners

There’s a reason for example that American Tribes fight especially hard to prevent easements from oil or rail or really any companies

Cable companies in particular have a reputation of destroying peoples properties, have numerous times now been given insane payouts to build the very infrastructure with taxes that they just bought and in those instances pocketed the money without even a slap on the wrist. Further their involvement indicates that any further infrastructure projects expanding that fiber are basically dead, and for any that exist they’re going to be on life support

Those same bailout companies just got their hands on the easements that were allowed to go to a group who at the least didn’t have that history of abuse, and precedent of the that deal going through so it is more likely to start happening in more places

All of those easements should be considered as dead space and new ones will have to be allocated when expansion is taken up by yet another company on 10 or 20 years when they prove they won’t upgrade or properly maintain theirs to modern needs, that means further encroaching on people’s property

Think of it like sidewalks that moved another 3-4 feet into people’s yards every 10 or so years which you as a homeowner are not allowed to alter or use or complain when their representatives do so

So all of the easement agreements got pushed through by google, and are being taken over by entities who wouldn’t have been able to get those easements due to commujity distrust of their company

I’d sue to have the easement revoked as a community, and for punitive damages hefty enough as a punch to Google’s nose to prevent that type of bad behavior from happening in the future

Not chump change, not cost of operations. Actual punitive damages enough to cut out any profits from the transaction and then some

Look up easement abuse in the US on YouTube, Lehto’s Law or Institute for Justice

From rail, to cable providers, to city municipalities, easements in the US have been utilized maliciously to destroy and seize peoples properties

Why bother asking permission?

In the States, enough people have proven uncivilized enough and willing enough to face the consequences that come with utilizing tools easily and cheaply available at their disposal so that trespassers and even politicians think twice before sending people to mess with other people’s land without asking permission

I think its yet to be seen if they shot themselves in the foot or not

Remember Reddit?

Yeah they were dirt bags and still exist just fine aren’t they

I’d wager its more likely that the same scenario repeats than this being a catastrophic event for discord personally

Unfortunately

Discoverability and moderated official servers

You need to be able to find say a public battlefield, minecraft, dayz, CivilizationVi, whatever community and subcommunities easily, so for minecraft you need to be able to find speedrunner, hardcore, smp, and so on groups

Active People to talk to

Chicken and egg problems. Gotta have signifcant quantities of people to attract more active people

Intuitive and easy joining, clean links.

Have to be able to say “oh we can hop on here and chat/discuss” to onboard new people from YouTube, Twitch, Owncast, whatever

The shared link cant be a string of letters and numbers because uninitiated correlate that with bad actors

This was something Guilded was starting to get right before they were bought out and shut down and it was massive for getting people to join

Ive been trying to migrate off since 2020

Communities I follow refuse to, and no other service is close to parity. Guilded was the closest until they allowed themselves to golden parachute with their Roblox purchase, so they’re now not longer worth considering

Teamspeak and teamspeak6 is a joke, anyone who prefers it is off their rocker

I’ve been following Revolt/Stout, River on FreeNet since I found it on FUTO, and others but frankly all alternatives I’ve found suck for varius reasons