Evilsandwichman [none/use name]

Honestly this

against a country that’s willing to use terror as a weapon

Trump went to war with Israel?

I think you’re giving these generic thugs too much credit; I genuinely doubt he sees a difference between ISIS and Iran

Nothing ironic here; Russia planned for the consequences of their war while we thought we’d just roll the Iranians, just like we thought we’d roll the houthis.

Honestly a better place to point out the hypocrisy would be Ukraine complaining about being invaded after helping invade Iraq; they’d need to endure being pounded for twenty years before they could complain about being invaded.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me three times, I may as well pack it in

Until Trump, Israel, and Europe are ready to have an honest conversation about the last two and a half years, it’s all in bad faith; Trump absolutely did not expect this outcome and the last thing Iran should do is give him and Israel a chance to plot a new course of action for a next time. If Iran gives them breathing room, they’ll prepare for a second (third) go but with contingencies for everything Iran did this time around.

What does victory look like for Iran? I personally have no idea, but absolute best case scenario which absolutely won’t happen: unconditional surrender of Israel and being put under control of Iran (obviously this won’t happen); other than that, Israeli and American politicians and military being put on trial for war crimes, this also won’t happen, it’s impossible; beyond that, an end to sanctions? This feels more plausible, but so long as Europe insists on being American vassals and having solidarity with Trump, this also isn’t going to happen but it’s not impossible. I genuinely have no idea what victory looks like for Iran, but everyone involved in this against Iran is acting in bad faith. There needs to be a formal recognition of the events of the last two and a half years before any dialogue with Iran can be done honestly.