“Imagine calling yourselves the ‘master race’ but forgetting to secure your own website — maybe try mastering to host WordPress before world domination,” Root wrote.
Fucking gold.
The last 3 years of “White Supremacy” has me questioning the narrative on White Competency.
“They publicly delete all my websites while the audience rejoices. This is cyberterrorism,” the administrator wrote on X
Lmao mald harder
I mean, it is technically true, but in a trial with a jury of peers it wouldn’t matter. This reminds me of the old school outlaw definition. If you were declared an outlaw the laws of the land no longer applied to you. You could commit crimes, but it also meant anyone and everyone could commit crimes against you without repercussions. It was a bit of a given that you would commit crimes because if you were declared an outlaw you probably were already committing crimes, but now anyone could rob, harm, or even kill you and it wouldn’t be a crime.
I say fuck these neo-nazis but this is cyber terrorism technically.
I call it self-defense, honestly.
Eh, I want to like this statement because I hate these people, but I can’t in good conscious call it something it isn’t. This sort of thing is the essence of debate because we have good people doing bad things to bad people and then have to justify why it’s ok despite it being bad. It’s justice vs righteousness, it’s lawful neutral vs lawful good. The only reason why this is acceptable is because it’s against people that we deem not worthy of legal protection, but as a precedent that’s dangerous territory. As soon as the definition of people not worthy of legal protection changes it suddenly becomes a problem.
At it’s core this person probably committed a crime, but people don’t care because it’s against a bad ideologue. It’s like if we said it’s ok to round up and execute neo-nazis, a lot of people would rejoice, but if you change that to most any other group they would cry about human rights. At the end of the day rounding up and killing anyone is a bad thing no matter who it’s against.
At some point the scales will not balance well and you need to be ok with that. There is no paradox of intolerance, for example, because tolerance is itself part of a social contract that bigots broke all on their own and once that’s out the window they do not get to reap the benefits of it. Social contracts aren’t easy math but they do make sense.
This isn’t blowing up a furry website because someone thinks that’s weird. White supremacy is an incredibly dangerous ideology that has no place in whatever better society we claim to be aiming for. No one killed them for it, either. White supremacy built a website and a better person removed that website the same way one might paint over a swastika but leave the nice mural.
I agree with the sentiment, but sadly can’t agree with the implementation. Laws exist in a neutral environment, you can’t bypass them just because the other party is someone society disagrees with. Even if they are committing crimes you can’t unilaterally exact justice against them due to vigilante laws.
This event took place in Germany, Crimical Code §§ 202a-d criminalizes unauthorized access, interception, and manipulation of data, with penalties ranging from fines to imprisonment, covering acts like phishing and data espionage. Within German law this should be a crime. Germany has laws against neo-nazis, but this would be vigilantism which Germany also prohibits.
It’s a slippery slope to ignore your own laws because they support the popular narrative.
Even if they are committing crimes you can’t unilaterally exact justice against them due to vigilante laws.
You can actually, self-defense to stop someone from committing a felony is legal in the US.
In no court in the world would you be able to say you were acting in self-defense while acting from 6000 km away.
This implies they could have done it earlier…
My guess is they started the site in the first place.
In the early 90s, my grandfather assured me that he fought and killed nazis, so that my generation would never have to deal with them.
He didn’t say he cancelled the nazis. The word he used was “Exterminated”.
Maybe we should all do that again. Exterminate the nazis. Because quite frankly, this government is lousey with them.
Nazis weren’t exterminated, the US government hired quite a few (and that’s not counting the ones who went on vacation to Brazil in 1945)
Maybe we should do it right this time.
The biggest sin of the American government was failing to hang every single confederate sympathizer. The problems only cascade from there.
This is where I am at where MAGA is concerned. It would be a crimson lining to a 2nd American Civil War, where I and others can free our society of Nazi kindred for good. IMO, the 1% of America are very likely to sympathize with the Confederates, because they believe that slavery of the poors is the natural state of things.
The problem is how do you find them all? You never will since some of them are smart enough not to advertise how vile they are. And as long as a few of them still exist they’ll multiply and spread their shitty philosophy.
An anonymous internet allows Nazis to connect with each other without fear of social or legal consequences, thereby raising their confidence in/dedication to their ideology.
It’s certainly not on a par, but the same thing happens with weird kinks- I have one I probably would have forgotten about if it weren’t something that I then found online. Instead, because I saw that it wasn’t just me, I had the confidence to tell partners about it. And it was only because I found queer online communities that I was able to explore my gender identity and sexuality in the same way.
I absolutely support an open and anonymous internet, I just don’t know if there’s a way to stamp out bigotry and fascism while having one.
Or rather, I know how to do it, I just don’t know if we can. The answer is absolute solidarity among non bigots against anonymous bigots: cancel your contracts with platforms that host fascists or bigots, tell them and everyone else why, and get others to do the same.
Of course, at this point there are enough of them to have their own economy, so it’s not going to work now. This is more like the wound care to prevent a recurrence of the infection, instead of the infection treatment itself.
