The patent called “STATE MANAGEMENT FOR VIDEO GAME HELP SESSIONS” describes multiple examples where a pop-up might ask a player to let a helper take over the gameplay for a while.
Imagine if a user were struggling to find a rare gem in an RPG; if allowed, the helper would take control from the player. They would proceed to chat and guide the user through the process of acquiring the gem.
Wake up, babe - the stupid ass patent wars are back again, AI edition.
They don’t just want the machines to create the art and music for us, they want them to consume it for us too, so that we’ll have more time to slave away at our jobs.
Im definately contrarian here. I like games but some aspects a hate. I would totally give over to a helper for platforming and all sorts of stuff I hate. Heck I like things like the ff12 gambit system. I love rpgs because I like to setup and build and see how it goes.
I would just choose to play games that aren’t mostly things I hate 🤷♂️
I guess it could be used to get through forced stealth segments in games with absolute dogshit stealth mechanics, but I would rather just see developers not put forced stealth levels in their game that wasn’t built to do stealth mechanics well.
its not most but like elden ring had platforming I would 100% allow the agent to go do. Lets me clear I have watched people do it without editng out their save scumming and these are the people good at it and it took a few tries. Again the game is not mostly that. but that is in it and games like to throw like that particular thing I hate pretty often.
The first jump that the DEVS point you toward in that one platforming area is so fucked. The only jump worse is the one in DS3 to get the Firekeeper Set. The geometry in both instances is hella fucked. 😩
honestly I hated both of them. actually one thing my wife and I talked about the game in terms of graphics was how it trigger both of our aggrophobias. Whats funny is hers is worse in real life but im easier effected virtually. All the ledge areas made me nervous as heck.
Can we just hire someone to play the game for us so we can watch? LOL JK. That would be bat-twitch CRAAAAAYZY.
Im one of those people who will totally watch someone else play a game.
Would you pay?
I don’t pay to watch anything.
So essentially laying the groundwork to microtransactions for video game guides?
Elon will love this
so good
First pay for the game, then pay for slop shit so you don’t have to play the game. Corporate big brain time at its best 😄
Edit: I didn’t read, I’m stupid, don’t be like me. It’s even worse than I imagined.
Not even. They’re going to sell you the idea that you’re a game dev, and sell you each piece and asset.
It’s the optimized AI version of “during a gold rush, is the people selling shovels and picks that get rich.”
“Finish” as in beat or best, not as in complete a development work to be shipped
Oh… Holy Fuck. It’s more dystopian and stupid than I realized.
I’m sorry and I hate it
To be fair, the corpo slop games aren’t really worth playing, never mind paying for.
Might as well watch youtube for free
Might as well skip the gameplay, give the achievements and trigger the good ending.
Might as well close your eyes, smile and and imagine you are king of the world.
Might as well just straight up jack it instead of thinking about the game at all.
What’s the point of gaming with this?
There are plenty of people who are happy to cheat at anything.
It’s kind of like the old Nintendo hotline. Call when you’re stuck on something in a game. Or just looking up a walkthrough online.
That said, this makes it far easier to ask for help and kids might just rely on it too much instead of figuring stuff out on their own.
With the hotline and guides you still had to actually play yourself. This is a step further, you just watch the game play itself.
At least, it’s not just someone watching a YouTube video of someone else playing… though I imagine some of that is just due to affordability.
I know my young nephew gets frustrated on some games and then just gives up… even if he knows what to do. Maybe when he’s older he could get better at those, but by that time, he’ll be on to something else.
At least, it’s not just someone watching a YouTube video of someone else playing
I would much rather pay nothing to watch a human being play a video game than purchase a video game just to watch the game play itself. I say this as someone who has zero interest in twitch, let’s play, etc.
Just save your money and pirate a fucking a movie at that point.
Yeah I don’t get it. Just have a program write to a file with the finished game data, no need for an AI to waste cycles playing the game for you.
If it works I expect it to be popular. A lot of people don’t actually want to engage with videogames and would rather zombie through the experience
Exactly, “I hate the grind”, “The boss/sub boss fights are too hard”, “I only have so many hours in a day”.
Some days I barely have an hour to play a game, sometimes I think maybe, just maybe, I could use a bot/AI to get a little more done while I’m doing those tedious life things, then I think “What’s the point if I don’t do it myself?”
That’s a game selection issue IMO. Busy people shouldn’t play games they don’t have the time to get invested into. AAA design and marketing has pushed this idea that every game has to be this big 100 hour open world RPG narrative adventure, but there’s so much good stuff out there that’s over in less time or doesn’t demand huge play sessions.
Right. I mostly buy Indy and, I guess, AA games like Arizona sunshine and metro awakening, 6 - 8 hrs of story driven game, I have elder scrolls (not oblivion but the one that they have remade/rereleased like 6 times, only got half way through that as I kept forgetting what I was doing lol)
Skyrim?
Dammit, how did I not remember that name. The only 2 names that would surface were oblivion and TESO. TY
I do play some video games and I guess this is nice, but what I really enjoy is listening to music. When am I gonna get an AI helper to listen to songs for me so I can get that done in peaceful silence instead?
There should be an AI helper to pet and play with my cat, that way all I need to do is buy food and pay vet bills and clean the litter.
I wish I could get an AI to hang out with my wife and kids so I could spend more time creating shareholder value.
Why even bother living. Just get “AI” to live for you, and recycle your meaningless meat form.
You exist to be exploited for the benefit of the shareholders. This allows you to work so many more hours a day.
Oh don’t worry. Some AI boot licker will come to defend this as well. “WelL yOu SeE nOt EvErYoNe HaS tHe TiMe To PlAy GaMeS. ThIs WiLl MaKe GaMiNg MoRe EfFiCiEnT.”
I’ve come to loathe the term efficiency
Who even wants this?
Microsoft execs eager for a bonus.
People who are stuck on a boss and can’t get past it.
is that even fun though? part of what makes a difficult boss fight so satisfying is when you finally DO beat it
Sure, if you’re a masochist. Not everyone has the time/energy/willpower to not even get close to finishing a boss after 50 attempts and need to do another 150 more. I can’t tell you how many games I’ve completely given up on because one specific boss does something that I just can’t manage.
Huh. If I don’t like a game I just don’t play it.
What if you like the game, just not that one boss?
Are we ignoring difficulty settings? I don’t mind turning things down.
Final boss? Meh, I’ll look it up to enjoy the final scene and move on if I get pissed enough.
Middle boss? Depends. Does it have a history of being a shitty midpoint and things get better from there? Maybe. If things will escalate I may have to admit that I don’t actually like it.
Early boss? Clearly I’m not going to like what is coming up. Maybe even refund time.
And, honestly, if you’re not speaking in hyperbole about trying a boss 50 times? I think at that point you’re just a glutton for punishment.
I don’t think I’ve ever bothered with a boss for that long. Closest I can say is I’ve done some serious farming in monster Hunter, but even for rare drops 50 is quite a lot.
why did you choose to call yourself a “fuckwit” on lemmy
Someone submitted it into a form at work like 10 years ago.
I’d rather stop playing than have an AI finish it for me.
I would rather pay another human being to TeamViewer in and beat the boss.
Good Lord.
Good god! Interacting with other people!? Ew!
I don’t like people but I like them more than I like AI.
I also grew up in the 80’s when you’d ask an older sibling to beat the boss for you.
Why not just put in a “skip” button?
Could you imagine how the fans would react to a skip button in Elden ring?
Probably not as bad as they would to an AI babysitter.
A completely pragmatic soultion with minnimum effort to implement and no R&D cost? Sounds completely useless for generating value for shareholders.
Oh God, you’re right! How did I forget about shareholder value?!?
The other thing the helps people get unstuck in games is good game design. 🙃
<sigh> I suppose this is just the equivalent of reading a game guide that someone has written, but this feels like it could remove too much friction. Are you playing the game if everything just becomes a tutorial?
First they came for our jobs, next our hobbies, now for our very entertainment ? Who could ever ask for a feature such as this !?
look, on the bright side they burn up every ressource on the planet.
Next new AI feature; an AI that can watch the series/films for you, think of all the time you can save!
Can it spit on me and tell me I’m worthless? We’ve got a long way to go is all I’m saying.
Are we all certain they haven’t just been asking an AI trained on Pimp My Ride clips for advice? This path seems to point to “we heard you like AI, so we put an AI on your AI to use your AI”. And only X to the Z can save us now
They need it to do something, anything, to justify the investment. As time goes and the sunk cost gets worse, the attempts will be more desperate.
This kind of feature will be for a fee.
They are all looking for a “killer AI app”.
This is why “consciousness” is trying to be marketed as achieved. This assumes the tasks performed can be varied, adapted to, and the AI left unattended while its rich owner fucks off and no longer has to pretend to pay insurance premiums for workers.
