In Germany, compulsory ID cards were introduced by the nazis.
The internet is a communications network, analogous to the telephone or post system. Such compulsory surveillance of private communication is not part of any existing laws.
First versions of a personal id in Germany were introduced in 1850. I doubt the nazis introduced ids in South Africa or Vietnam.
I also don’t think the internet is comparable to telephone or postal services. There is a whole information space on the internet simply not existing in the other two.
You guys need to stop treating the internet as the wild west.
Famously free countries. Let me guess, SA used ID cards for the same purpose as the nazis?
Not knowing how the internet is like a telephone network is exactly the problem. It’s like making laws about breaking and entering without knowing what locks or windows are.
The internet is not lawless. It wouldn’t exist without laws, chief among them constitutional guarantees for freedom of information.
The issue isn’t with being identifiable, it’s with control over who has access to your identity. Even back when IDs were introduced, people would take issue with them being copied and sold by the bale to literally anyone who asks.
It’s funny that you’re right, but not in the way I think you intended. Now you don’t have to hand it out because it’s persistently available and tied to everything you do online! It’s clear you’re being contrarian and aren’t making points in good faith, so this isn’t for you, but to anyone else reading I recommend checking out EFF’s post on the subject.
What ZKPs don’t do is mitigate verifier abuse or limit their requests, such as over-asking for information they don’t need or limiting the number of times they request your age over time. They don’t prevent websites or applications from collecting other kinds of observable personally identifiable information like your IP address or other device information while interacting with them.
ZKPs are a great tool for sharing less data about ourselves over time or in a one time transaction. But this doesn’t do a lot about the data broker industry that already has massive, existing profiles of data on people. We understand that this was not what ZKPs for age verification were presented to solve. But it is still imperative to point out that utilizing this technology to share even more about ourselves online through mandatory age verification establishes a wider scope for sharing in an already saturated ecosystem of easily linked, existing personal information online. Going from presenting your physical ID maybe 2-3 times a week to potentially proving your age to multiple websites and apps every day online is going to render going online itself as a burden at minimum and a barrier entirely at most for those who can’t obtain an ID.
So the bad thing about this is that data sellers already have your data and zero knowledge proof doesn’t change that? Pretty weak point in my opinion.
I swear people would call personal identity cards dystopian if we wanted to introduce them today.
There is nothing dystopian about applying existing laws on the internet.
In Germany, compulsory ID cards were introduced by the nazis.
The internet is a communications network, analogous to the telephone or post system. Such compulsory surveillance of private communication is not part of any existing laws.
First versions of a personal id in Germany were introduced in 1850. I doubt the nazis introduced ids in South Africa or Vietnam.
I also don’t think the internet is comparable to telephone or postal services. There is a whole information space on the internet simply not existing in the other two.
You guys need to stop treating the internet as the wild west.
Famously free countries. Let me guess, SA used ID cards for the same purpose as the nazis?
Not knowing how the internet is like a telephone network is exactly the problem. It’s like making laws about breaking and entering without knowing what locks or windows are.
The internet is not lawless. It wouldn’t exist without laws, chief among them constitutional guarantees for freedom of information.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_identity_card_policies_by_country
Must be all Nazis then 🤡
I can’t imagine AI generated porn of real women being published on telephone lines without the internet.
But yeah sure it’s just information bro nothing to worry about.
Because robot scam callers have never been a thing.
The issue isn’t with being identifiable, it’s with control over who has access to your identity. Even back when IDs were introduced, people would take issue with them being copied and sold by the bale to literally anyone who asks.
So the new verification app must be pretty great as this completely removes the need to hand out your identity details
It’s funny that you’re right, but not in the way I think you intended. Now you don’t have to hand it out because it’s persistently available and tied to everything you do online! It’s clear you’re being contrarian and aren’t making points in good faith, so this isn’t for you, but to anyone else reading I recommend checking out EFF’s post on the subject.
So the bad thing about this is that data sellers already have your data and zero knowledge proof doesn’t change that? Pretty weak point in my opinion.