• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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    6 days ago

    Well they dont lol, they are super flimsy these days and most stuff is soldered on. Its good if this turns out to be the start of the return to good thinkpads, but i wouldnt get my hopes up yet.

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      6 days ago

      What exactly is soldered on that shouldn’t be? If you want a processor that’s user replaceable, you should just get a PC. If RAM, SSD and the ports are user replaceable, that sounds pretty good to me.

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          6 days ago

          Have you ever carried a laptop on actual travel? Like sprinting across a train station to catch your connection? You’ll definitely learn to appreciate a smaller lighter laptop.

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            My first laptop was a briefcase. There is such a thing as a happy medium. You could design light laptops that have replaceable parts, but they don’t do that because that would give choice back to the consumer and most manufacturers whole business model is to have you discard your computer and buy a brand new one every few years.

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              6 days ago

              And how is having a socketed processor going to help with that? Even in Framework laptop, you have to swap out the motherboard. And even then, a laptop will never be something that lasts for decades. Technology moves on.

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                6 days ago

                I’ve got two laptops, a personal one, and one from work. They’re both Lenovo laptops.

                My personal laptop can be repaired, you can slip out the battery and replace it without even using a screw. There’s actually two batteries, one is internal and does require some screws to be removed but it’s not very difficult. Anyone who wants to can easily do that. The same goes for the fan and cooler, RAM, and SSD, network card, keyboard, screen, and trackpad. There’s probably a bunch of other things that can be easily replaced that I just haven’t looked into.

                My work laptop is from 2022, so it’s about 4 years old now. It doesn’t have a second external battery. Opening it up is a bit tougher, and you can’t replace things as readily.

                They have roughly the same dimensions, and weigh about as much. I don’t really see the added value to me as a consumer with this newer laptop.

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                5 days ago

                And even then, a laptop will never be something that lasts for decades.

                My T410 runs fine.

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                5 days ago

                And how is having a socketed processor going to help with that?

                which “that”? Obviously, it would increase repairability and longevity. it wouldn’t help with sales if you meant that, actually it’s likely that it would decrease sales because of longevity.

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            5 days ago

            Have you ever carried a laptop on actual travel?

            that’s what I wanted to ask but with PCs after your suggestion above