The US government asked for subpoenas of users from reddit. You really trust that ID verification is being pushed to help combat misinformation campaigns? Have you looked at the tech bros that were right next to the US president and all the stock manipulation and financial deals being done? A billionaire created their own private agency with doge with zero consequences.
You seem to be operating on the logic of completely ignoring what is going on in the world to still believe any of these changes are for the good of the people as opposed to control. And to be asking for it when you see who is in charge of the US is really wild.
It seems real strange that you cling to the hope that ID verification requirements is going to lead to changes you wish it would when current events suggest the opposite with the US government themselves spreading AI generated misinformation. And that convinces you to hand over more stuff because you are imagining how you would use it while ignoring how the government likely plans to use it based on current events?
I’m hoping in the next ~10 years this problem gets solved. I don’t know how, I don’t care how.
That’s the gist of my take.
I think misinformation campaigns by BFAs and botnets are going to be an absolute nightmare for every society worldwide within the next ~10 years. Let’s be clear - it’s absolutely a part of international cyber warfare. This will of course affect the Democratic societies first and hit them the hardest due to politics.
IMO Nations worldwide are already behind the curve and I think the U.S. is a prime example of how misinformation campaigns can be used to quickly sow distrust in leadership, promote division, and start movements. You could argue that U.S. has been headed this way for years, but it’s been a swift change of guard when compared to the past few decades. I think each Nation is already dealing with this kind of cyber warfare but again, are behind the game due to slow politics, slow policies, and lack of policies on tech.
I understand your concerns, but you also don’t have any solutions. Maybe you don’t think that misinformation and botnets through LLMs online are a problem? Maybe you think the majority of society is educated enough to distinguish misinformation or detect LLMs/bots?
You seem to be taking your position based on how you’d like to see ID verification implementand using that as an argument for it. While I see your argument and it doesn’t make sense because it doesn’t reflect the reality of how governments and corporations are using it.
It’s like you just assume governments and corporations will do what you hope and making statements off that. As if you are the supreme ruler or something where they are going to be guided by your vision. As though you just woke up and thought this could be used to combat LLMs and without any care about whether the government or corporations would do with that info collection just assuming that is what they will do because that’s the idea you are fixated on.
That’s the impression I’m getting from what I’ve read. You have failed to convince me that what you wish will happen will be to the benefit you hope it will be.
Again, you offer no solutions to our problems. No ideas. Your hopelessness is boring and unoriginal.
Yes, I absolutely do believe that guarding against targeted misinformation is more important than guarding against government intrusion since the government can already strongarm ISPs, OS manufacturers, and web admins for information. If cyber warfare is happening through misinformation to erode Democracy, then I’m rooting for my Government over international Government who are also pining for the same control. There is not going to be a perfect solution to this issue.
It really sounds like, with your lack of ideas or real meaningful recognition of the problem here, that you’ve already given up and given in. That there’s no clawing our way back from our current position. Without ideas or solutions we’re destined to just accept what’s happening and it’s every person for themselves. No safety net against this kind of problem.
Finally, I’m not trying to convince you of shit, I’m trying to have a normal conversation of ideas in a public space, but you have no ideas. Bring something to the table besides pessimism or fuck off, yeah?
The US government asked for subpoenas of users from reddit. You really trust that ID verification is being pushed to help combat misinformation campaigns? Have you looked at the tech bros that were right next to the US president and all the stock manipulation and financial deals being done? A billionaire created their own private agency with doge with zero consequences.
You seem to be operating on the logic of completely ignoring what is going on in the world to still believe any of these changes are for the good of the people as opposed to control. And to be asking for it when you see who is in charge of the US is really wild.
It seems real strange that you cling to the hope that ID verification requirements is going to lead to changes you wish it would when current events suggest the opposite with the US government themselves spreading AI generated misinformation. And that convinces you to hand over more stuff because you are imagining how you would use it while ignoring how the government likely plans to use it based on current events?
That’s the gist of my take.
I think misinformation campaigns by BFAs and botnets are going to be an absolute nightmare for every society worldwide within the next ~10 years. Let’s be clear - it’s absolutely a part of international cyber warfare. This will of course affect the Democratic societies first and hit them the hardest due to politics.
IMO Nations worldwide are already behind the curve and I think the U.S. is a prime example of how misinformation campaigns can be used to quickly sow distrust in leadership, promote division, and start movements. You could argue that U.S. has been headed this way for years, but it’s been a swift change of guard when compared to the past few decades. I think each Nation is already dealing with this kind of cyber warfare but again, are behind the game due to slow politics, slow policies, and lack of policies on tech.
I understand your concerns, but you also don’t have any solutions. Maybe you don’t think that misinformation and botnets through LLMs online are a problem? Maybe you think the majority of society is educated enough to distinguish misinformation or detect LLMs/bots?
You seem to be taking your position based on how you’d like to see ID verification implementand using that as an argument for it. While I see your argument and it doesn’t make sense because it doesn’t reflect the reality of how governments and corporations are using it.
It’s like you just assume governments and corporations will do what you hope and making statements off that. As if you are the supreme ruler or something where they are going to be guided by your vision. As though you just woke up and thought this could be used to combat LLMs and without any care about whether the government or corporations would do with that info collection just assuming that is what they will do because that’s the idea you are fixated on.
That’s the impression I’m getting from what I’ve read. You have failed to convince me that what you wish will happen will be to the benefit you hope it will be.
Again, you offer no solutions to our problems. No ideas. Your hopelessness is boring and unoriginal.
Yes, I absolutely do believe that guarding against targeted misinformation is more important than guarding against government intrusion since the government can already strongarm ISPs, OS manufacturers, and web admins for information. If cyber warfare is happening through misinformation to erode Democracy, then I’m rooting for my Government over international Government who are also pining for the same control. There is not going to be a perfect solution to this issue.
It really sounds like, with your lack of ideas or real meaningful recognition of the problem here, that you’ve already given up and given in. That there’s no clawing our way back from our current position. Without ideas or solutions we’re destined to just accept what’s happening and it’s every person for themselves. No safety net against this kind of problem.
Finally, I’m not trying to convince you of shit, I’m trying to have a normal conversation of ideas in a public space, but you have no ideas. Bring something to the table besides pessimism or fuck off, yeah?