• brsrklf@jlai.lu
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    One of my 2 PCs already switched to linux because of mandatory TPM 2.0 for windows.

    It’s like they want us to leave their ecosystem. Requiring hardware changes in the middle of a major component crisis, one that they are in no small part responsible for, is certainly a choice.

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    Fingers crossed they will go even further and make it even more intrusive than win 11, I pray for AI all over that thing

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    If they do this, they are going to be laughed out of the room. But then they will announce end of life for Win11 and everyone will stop asking questions and move anyway because “Linux scary”.

    I hate reality.

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    Quite surprised that they are pushing that, seeing as one of the biggest obstacles for Windows 11 getting adopted was that a lot of the existing hardware didn’t support the TPM requirements it put in place.

    Doing it again so soon seems like a recipe to make people not want to use 12 at all. After all, Windows 11 works fine for them, why change so soon?

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      Calling it: win12 will have a thin client cloud hosted SaaS edition, for those who can’t afford new ai-priced hardware.

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      The enterprise editions don’t seem to attract all of the bloat that home and pro editions get. I think they know they can’t get away with it.

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    So they’re going to try to get everyone to buy new hardware when there is a shortage of ram and storage and they are ridiculously overpriced.

    The timing of this couldn’t be worse.

    Pass the popcorn.

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      “Don’t worry about that, you can just run it in the cloud for an eternal subscription” - Microslop.

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        Or just spend a couple of months of growing pains slowly switching everything over to Linux and spend all that cash on something fun.

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      Can i flawlessly run Photoshop, mine raft java, FFXIV, steam and all games, Media player classic. Music bee without having to deal with work around and terminal garbage as easy as I can windows? No, I thought so, I’ll come back once I can use the things I use daily without an issue and without having to install 6 different things to make stuff work

      Ubuntu is neat the few times I used it though.

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        Windows is only “easy” because you’re used to it. Coming to it fresh, windows 11 is such a shit show sometimes.

        Minecraft works on Linux,

        FFXIV works on Linux (it works on the steam deck which runs Linux, so it will work natively just like in windows),

        Steam itself works on Linux just the same.

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              I do and don’t. I want the stuff I use to work and I want a seamless transition as is going from android to iPhone or windows to mac. But this is all dependent of what distro I use and what my uses are. Which is what makes Linux so unique and great versus windows having bloatware hell and 3 versions which are all basically identical plus AI slop.

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                I do and don’t.

                Well you can’t have both 1 and 0. And it seems like you are choosing 0.

                You have your demands but part of moving to Linux is accepting things will be different. Mostly in a better way, but you’ll also not have everything from your Windows experience. Sitting around waiting for Photoshop to come to Linux, you’ll be sitting until retirement and beyond.

                You could always dual boot? Or run Windows in a VM for when you need Photoshop.

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        Would you also claim the diesel cars are worthless because you can’t use regular gas in them? No, I thought so

        Photoshop is trash.

        Minecraft works just fine (it’s Java for crying out loud)

        Steam works natively. Valve’s most popular hardware device runs Linux.

        Media player classic

        You want to use a garbage Windows built-in application on Linux?

        without having to deal with work around and terminal garbage as easy as I can windows?

        Two things here;

        1. You can get around on Linux without a terminal

        2. The terminal is king in functionality

        3. Windows requires a command line for many things also, this isn’t a Linux only thing

        If you come to Linux expecting it to work like Windows and run all Windows applications, then you’re setting yourself up for failure with bad-faith expectations.

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          Media player classic is not window Media player. Windows Media player is trash.

          Photoshop might be trash (all of Adobe is, greedy little leeches), but it’s what I’ve been using it for like 22 years now and I’ve tried to use gimp but it’s just not the same, same with krita.

          I know steam and MC work, I was just listing stuff I use, I think music bee might even have a Linux version, and he’ll Linux might even have something better than Music bee. It usually does for media players.

          I never insulted Linux, I have no idea why people act like I do. Maybe me choosing I ubuntu might be insulting, but Linux having 6k options for me to pick is my own choice.

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        the thing is that if you are fresh gnu/linux guy there’s usually a store app where you can install software with no problems at all and as you get more familiar with gnu/linux you can start digging that terminal stuff

        and those apps you said really sucks…

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    They can force upgrade themselves in the ass.

    The only thing I’m looking forward to more than the collapse of the AI bubble is Microsoft, specifically, eating shit at the hands of a public that doesn’t want, need, or give two shits about them anymore. Just like Intel or whatever your favorite example is, see some fucking titan that thought they were some great titan, only to turn out to be Ozymandias when the whole fucking world looks up at them and shrugs. Like the end of the Truman show when this massive, all-consuming industry of a production comes crashing down in an evening, and the television viewers at home happily shrug and say, “what else is on?”

    The word about Linux is out, and, as Snazzy Labs recently pointed out, Macs have accidentally become the best value in new computers. There are excellent non-Windows options for ordinary people who just do everything through a web browser and an office suite, for not much money all over the fucking place, and the day their greed catches up to them and they start to lose real market share is so close I can taste it.

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    So a forced upgrade again? I don’t understand why people put up with this still, apart from shitty Windows only software and even then, maybe it’s time to try something new.