Apple appears to have prematurely revealed the name of its rumored lower-cost MacBook model, which is expected to be announced this Wednesday. A regulatory document for a “MacBook Neo” (Model A3404) has appeared on Apple’s website. Unfortunately, there are no further details or images available yet. While the PDF file does not contain the “MacBook Neo” name, it briefly appeared in a link on Apple’s regulatory website for EU compliance purposes.

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    21 hours ago

    I have no intention of buying one.

    People get offended when customers are swindled. And Apple are expert swindlers.

    Aside from that, the choices other people make affect your choices available on the market. No better example than the headphone jack. Apple removes it and people scream DONT BUY IT IF YOU DONT LIKE IT, ignorant of the fact that not only this an option that’s no longer available, but that the market as a whole would follow Apple’s greedy lead until the only thing left is a handful of budget devices, for inexplicable reasons.

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      People get offended when customers are swindled. And Apple are expert swindlers.

      So it’s a case of “everyone’s stupid except for me”?

      No better example than the headphone jack.

      Incredibly vocal minority on reddit/Lemmy aside, your average consumer doesn’t give a shit about having a 3.5 jack in their phone. The market prefers thinner, lighter, and better waterproofing. Know how I know? Because if there was a big market for a phone with a 3.5 jack, someone would be making it, and lots of people would be buying it. It’s not saving these companies a ton on manufacturing to not include one. They cost pennies each when purchased in bulk.

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        Know how I know? Because if there was a big market for a phone with a 3.5 jack, someone would be making it, and lots of people would be buying it.

        that’s not how it works, so I’d argue you don’t know… as Jobs said, he’ll tell you what you want.

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          Jobs is dead, had been dead for 5 years when apple removed the 3.5 jack, and was never in charge of the myriad other phone manufacturers who also removed their 3.5 jacks. I’m not sure he’s as relevant here as you’re implying.

          Anyway, as an adult, “company made a product that isn’t catered to my specific preferences” is well below my threshold for outrage. I actually can’t imagine living like that. It must be horrible.

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        19 hours ago

        So it’s a case of “everyone’s stupid except for me”?

        No, lots of other people also understand that they’re swindlers.

        your average consumer doesn’t give a shit about having a 3.5 jack in their phone

        Whoosh. It wasn’t about “the average consumer”, it’s about why people are upset about trends in a market, even if it’s not something they would ever buy.

        It’s not saving these companies a ton on manufacturing to not include one. They cost pennies each when purchased in bulk.

        LOL you actually thought this ever had anything to do with saving money? Did you not notice that they also released another product simultaneously that now makes enough money on its own to be a Fortune 500 company? They created a problem and then immediately turned around and sold people a solution. Absolute masterclass in swindling.

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          No, lots of other people also understand that they’re swindlers.

          And lots of other people like their stuff and might want to buy this. I’m not one of them, but I’m happy they can get something they like. Why isn’t that good enough?

          It wasn’t about “the average consumer”

          It’s absolutely about the average consumer. Do you honestly believe Samsung removed the 3.5 jack simply because apple did and they’re conditioned to follow apple? They follow money. The money is in thinner, lighter, and better water resistance. The money is there because that’s what the average consumer actually wants.

          Did you not notice that they also released another product simultaneously that now makes enough money on its own to be a Fortune 500 company?

          And how does that help the competing manufacturers who also removed their 3.5 jack?

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            Why isn’t that good enough?

            Why isn’t people liking something they were swindled into paying way too much money for not good enough? Do you really have to ask that? Maybe you can ask the anti-trust regulators why they feel the need to protect people from themselves?

            It’s absolutely about the average consumer

            It’s absolutely not. It’s not about what the consumer wants at all. These companies didn’t remove them because customers wanted them removed. They removed so that they couldn’t use them anymore.

            And how does that help the competing manufacturers who also removed their 3.5 jack?

            Because they also made buckets of money removing them. Every fucking one of them removed the jack and then immediately introduced new Bluetooth headphones that were several hundred dollars. Even Fairphone went down this hole.

            No one makes money selling $7 wired headphones.

            Are you beginning to understand how things you don’t buy still affect you yet?

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              they were swindled

              So we’re back to “everyone is stupid except for me”.

              It’s absolutely not. It’s not about what the consumer wants at all.

              So we’re back to “everyone is stupid except for me”.

              These companies didn’t remove them because customers wanted them removed.

              Customers want thin, light, and good water resistance. Removing a port barely anyone uses was an easy way to achieve that and the vast majority of customers don’t miss it.

              Are you beginning to understand how things you don’t buy still affect you yet?

              So we’re back to “everyone is stupid except for me”.

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                So we’re back to “everyone is stupid except for me”.

                No we’re not. I’ve already addressed this, please scroll up.

                Customers want thin, light, and good water resistance.

                1. We already had several models with all of those things
                2. Even the iPhone Air is thick enough to fit a headphone jack.
                3. For the third time, none of this is about what consumers want.

                So we’re back to “everyone is stupid except for me”.

                If your strategy is to repeat the same nonsense over and over without addressing my rebuttal then you can go ahead and stop replying to me.

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                  No we’re not. I’ve already addressed this, please scroll up.

                  Yes, we are. If you believe people have to be tricked or manipulated into valuing different features than you do, you’re just using a lot of extra words to say “everyone is stupid except for me”.

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                    It’s not what I believe and it’s not what I’ve said. I was very clear about what my position and you’re just intentionally misrepresenting it. You’re being blocked now, goodbye.