• Salah [ey/em]@hexbear.net
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    3 days ago

    It seems like Russia has actually gained from its invasion of Ukraine while the US stands to lose (some of) its military bases and influence in gulf states. So I don’t see the necessity for irony.

      • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 days ago

        Way less people to pay pensions for in 30 years

        Way less old weapons to recycle

        Being BFF with North Korea

        A possibility to turn around when the economy tanks

        A greener world with less oil and gas exports

        Enlarging NATO for a more peaceful future

        Do I have to go on?

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        2 days ago

        he probably meant from IRANS invasion, the oil prices rose as a result of the strait being Mined, and the sanctions being lifted?>

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        3 days ago

        They helped deplete the US’s munition stores and now they’re in a much worse position to fight Iran.

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          3 days ago

          Not really?

          First, the US stopped sending aid a long time ago. It’s currently just that some of it is allowed to be sold to Ukraine by weapons manufacturers.

          Second, most of what was sent was stuff that was sitting around that was required to be replaced anyway. It was created with the intent to fight Russia, and it was just wasting away. It literally has to be thrown away after a period, if it isn’t used, and replaced.

          Whatever happens in Iran, it isn’t because of a lack of munitions. That pretty much been proven. It’s because the US can’t fight the kind of war that needs to be fought, and it never has been able to. Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan prove that. Iran can hide out in their mountains and nothing can be done about it.

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            The US only stopped sending aid last year, that doesn’t give it enough time to recover from the $70 billion in hardware it already sent. It’s also continued selling weapons to Ukraine even as it cut back on aid, as well as pressuring NATO to ramp up its purchases of US weapons (which are then going to Ukraine anyway), which still depletes the stocks.

            As for it not mattering, the US has demonstrated they’re willing to strike civilian targets. I’d say it matters to Iranian civilians if the US has less capability of blowing up their hospitals and schools because it has already exhausted itself.

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              It’s like you ignored the entire section about the US sending munitions that would have never been used in Iran because it was either send them to someone else or throw them away.

            • Cethin@lemmy.zip
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              3 days ago

              Man, you are so far deep in your bubble. You think Russia can fight a war for years, but the US is out of munitions in a few days? I don’t care about your opinion if the country. You have to be really stupid to believe the US munitions stockpile is hardly even scratched by this so far. Hell, the ships that have expended munitions probably aren’t even low.

              You’re allowed to think it’s bad and wrong without purposefully being an idiot. Your opinion should at least attempt to be based in reality. The weapons used in Iran were already in the region, and that’s obviously only a small fraction of what exists back home. The stockpile likely isn’t strong enough for a “forever war”, like Trump says, but this so far was nothing.

              • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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                2 days ago

                Why the fuck are you talking to me like that? Why can’t we just have a discussion without the personal attacks?

                Patriot missiles are running low, and when those run out intercepting missiles will get much harder. How do you think that happened? Maybe I’m just a stupid worthless piece of shit, but it sure fucking looks like Ukraine depleted the US’s stockpile.