At least 10 alleged U.S.-based facilitators have been federally charged, including one active-duty member of the U.S. Army, for their alleged roles in hosting laptop farms, laundering payments and moving proceeds through shell companies. At least six other alleged U.S. facilitators have been identified in court documents but not named.

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      hate to break it to you, most countries have trade embargoes against NK. this means you cannot contract work from NK because you would be committing international trade fraud.

      contractor failed to disclose they were a NK national and thus resulted in their termination.

      I know you’re probably joking, but this is the reality we live in.

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      the problem was probably more about being suspected as an operative for north korea.

      though i wish i knew what methods they used to make the guy appear like perfect hire if he actually is an operative, maybe it might be useful information to actually just get a job. Getting a job nowdays feels more like trying to “steal” yourself a place in society rather than just being part of society. Having a job is a privilege.

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        From what I’ve seen in other articles about the same case, it’s basically nothing special. The North Korean applies under a false identity that isn’t associated with North Korea, and they have (or at least claim to have) relevant education and experience that would make them good fits for roles like programming, then they apply for remote jobs where they can continually work at one job without having to go in and interact with people face to face.

        I kind of doubt the problem is being suspected of being an operative, though, so much as ex filtration of corporate secrets and potentially falling afoul of sanctions against North Korea if they continue to employ someone in their company once they have a reasonable suspicion that the person is a North Korean national working under a false identity. They would be helping the North Korean government to maintain a steady inflow of foreign currency that they need, which I’m sure could land them in trouble. Aside from that liability, I would imagine they would beore concerned about company IP and tratedsecrets this employee would have access to being available to the DPRK to do what they will with, as well as others in the government being able to use their credentials to potentially access and compromise systems on the company’s network that this employee could access.

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        Instructions unclear. Wrote my contact address as Pyongyang and now I’m getting emails in Korean.

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          안녕하세요! 고객님, 운전 중 불편을 드려 죄송합니다. 다름이 아니라, 고객님께서 보유하신 차량의 자동차 보험 및 보증 기간이 곧 만료될 예정이라 긴급 안내차 연락드렸습니다. 현재 특별 갱신 기간으로, 기존보다 훨씬 저렴한 보험료와 더 넓은 보장 범위를 제공해 드리고 있는데요. 바쁘시더라도 이번 기회를 놓치시면 나중에 더 큰 비용이 발생할 수 있으니, 지금 바로 상담원을 연결하여 혜택을 확인해 보시는 것이 좋습니다. 상담원 연결을 원하시면 1번, 수신 거부를 원하시면 9번을 눌러주세요.

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    Wow, this is an unusually long, high quality article from NBC news. I didn’t realise they have a great investigative unit.

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      especially when north korea did a whole lot of nothing wrong to other countries these last few decades, while the other is keen on crashing the world economy rn.

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        Definitely wouldn’t say they’ve done no wrong. The whole dispute between north and South Korea has been pretty wrong for a while. Also the shit they’re pulling with Russia in Ukraine is pretty wrong. But I see your point, looking at purely external policy NK is far superior to the US and has been for a very long time. Looking at internal policy, the US still stands higher, but not for long.

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          South Korea is a US puppet state whose only purpose is to maintain our seige on North Korea, we weren’t satisfied with bombing them into the dirt because they didn’t surrender so now we’re indefinitely occupying half their fucking country. The US doesn’t stand higher than anyone.

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          on the topic of us external policy: south korean’s army is very influenced by the us, through the combined forces. this stalemate has a big element of us imperialism, not that unlike what they briefly did to vietnam.

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            This isn’t an accusation, but from your comments I’m guessing you’re what they call a tankie. I don’t personally care, as I don’t make judgements on things I know I’m not educated about. But I do have a question for someone who is not immediately opposed to North Korea: it’s undeniable that there is an ongoing and long time food shortage. I’ve been told this is due to poor internal policy, and that it is due to sanctions. If you are willing, I’d like to hear your thoughts on why this issue exists and what could realistically be done by North Korea to solve it, whether it be via some external influence or hopefully something they could do internally.

            As for your comment, yeah. That’s completely true, and I don’t really have anything to add to that, other than your enemy being wrong doesn’t make you right.

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              Ont the food shortage front, North Korea kind of got hit by a perfect storm of problems that might not have been so severe, had they not all occurred in short order. In brief, over the span of several years in the 1990s, the DPRK managed to lose their greatest backer and trading partner with the collapse of the USSR, which in turn meant that flaws present in some already failing internal policies could no longer be ignored, and were, in fact, exacerbated. Then they had widespread flooding that devastated domestic agriculture, making a bad situation worse. International sanctions would have also impeded efforts to turn to international markets temporarily to purchase additional food and necessary supplies to turn the situation around. While the US did supply food aid starting in 1996, much like how the US weaponized the embargos on Cuba and sanctions on Iran in a way that worsened their situation during the Covid pandemic, George W. Bush severely cut US food aid, and in some years, it was eliminated entirely.

              There’s a whole article on the subject on Wikipedia that is a good start for understanding it. While there are certainly plenty of things to criticize North Korea for, I think the general “Hurr durr, communism is bad, look at all this nice food I have,” take that has become widespread in the US is a pretty reductive bit of anti-DPRK propaganda. Also, I don’t know how much of their relative success before that point was due to the USSR propping up an allied state and how much could be attributed to Kim Il Sung’s capabilities as a statesman, but his successors don’t seem to be his equal either in finding strong parties to ally with or in their statecraft. It’s also entirely possible that they are simply the Juche version of failsons, slowly dissipating their father’s legacy for their own gratification after having grown up fairly privileged and viewing the enterprise left to them (or state, in this case) purely as part of their inheritance to plunder for personal gain.

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              i’m actually still learning about north korea as i took interest in it very recently, but i can say a couple of things:

              yes, not unlike cuba, they suffer from the blockade and lack of sufficient land. because of that, they used to very heavily rely on the ussr for food and trade, and when it died, their food distribution collapsed for a few years.

              though something that’s not talked about enough is how they built their country atop of ashes and a lot preexisting hunger after the korean war and major bombings by the us. this one is a hurdle most socialist countries have to deal with.

              that’s not to say communists generally think north korea it’s perfect or else.

              i can’t tell you in good faith about their modern internal policy, or the veracity of modern hunger claims because i simply don’t know enough about it yet.

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                Yeah, I don’t generally take anything as fact without checking it out, but that gives me some stuff to look into. Also, it doesn’t contradict anything I know to be true, so that’s immediately a good sign as I can easily sniff out bullshit typically. I appreciate your discussion, hopefully your education goes well for you and you have a nice day.

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              I just realised that the tankie point of view may be described as thinking countries should get what they deserve based on past wrongs regardless of how many people get thrown into the meat grinder due to the current reality.

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                i’ve gotta admit libs come up with the some of the best strawman out there.

                i think countries deserve things based on CURRENT wrongs too, silly.

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                Yeah it’s in the name. They like the idea of an ideological war. They think it’s necessary and that’s once it’s done they just need to suppress dissent and everything will be fine.

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        I’d say they did much more harm to themselves rather than to anyone else. I fail to remember NK invading anyone besides an ongoing conflict with SK.